SpaceApps Bootcamp #14 – NASA Women in Data


I’m Minerva Tantoco I’m the Chief Technology Officer of New
York City, the first-ever Chief Technology Officer of New York City Whoo hoo (applause) and on behalf of our feminist
mayor Bill de Blasio I am very very happy and honored to welcome you all to
tonight’s data boot camp panel and I just want to make a few remarks and then
introduce this amazing panel. First of all how incredibly amazing it
is to see this event happening here in New York I can’t tell you enough how important it
is to have more women involved in technology and in particular involved with
data science I myself, I’ve been a Chief Technology
Officer for 17 years, I started a software company 30 years ago and pretty
much was the only girl in the room for the most part but and I’m really
really thrilled to see things start to turn around it’s extremely important for women to
participate in the innovation economy in the tech economy. From the perspective of
technology we have so many unfilled technology jobs and that’s what’s going
to make New York City and the United States more competitive in the
economy of the next century and we’re not even tapping half of our population. We’re going to fall behind. This is a big,
this is a very important priority for our administration and for all of us
in the room and I’m just so heartened and thrilled to see an event that is really
targeted towards girls and women getting involved in data science. When I speak to you know, a lot of students, they asked me
what are the things that I should be studying is that there’s just two things
and you will never have to worry for a job: data science and cybersecurity. Those are the two things and you’ll be,
you’ll be employed for life so, you know, I do think that the creation of
this Chief Technology Officer role is a recognition not only of the importance
of technology to New York City government, but also the importance of
technology to New York City’s future. We’re very very focused on closing the
tech divide in New York City both from sorry, both from a gender divide
perspective, income divide, racial divide we think that technology will provide
opportunities for all New Yorkers it’s a pathway to the middle class. We’re
working on providing broadband and Internet access for all New Yorkers,
computer science education in New York City, and, we’re happy to say that we’re
actually you know practicing what we preach. Mayor de Blasio’s administration
is the first mayoral administration which has the most number of women
leaders in his leadership, fifty-three percent of senior leaders in
New York City government are women. Thank you, mayor Bill (laughs) and the two
leaders of New York technology are women that’s me, you know the Chief
Technology Officer, our Chief Information Officer, the Commissioner of the Department of IT is Anne Roest, and so we like to say
just keep calm and let the women run the technology. (laughter) so I’m very very pleased and honored and
and again on behalf of New York City, on behalf of the mayor it’s incredibly
inspiring to be in this room with you all and to introduce this illustrious
staff I feel I am not worthy (laughs) we have this evening Ellen Stofan, NASA’s Chief Scientist You can clap (laughs) (applause) We have Cady Coleman, astronaut (applause) now that’s, that’s a cool title i have to
say, even cooler than mine (laughs) and then we have Beth Beck, NASA’s Open Innovation manager. (applause) So without any further ado, I’ll let you go on with the show. Thank you. All right. Some of you have been here before and those of you if you’ve been on the livestream you were with us all day and so we have new people coming in – you can’t hear it? Hello? It’s on. Maybe with the air coming. Anyway we’re
going to do quick introductions and then we have some questions from, that
we’ve been collecting from Twitter and social media for the last week or so and
then we can take questions from you guys too So just a quick introduction, I work for
Deborah Diaz who’s right there who is the Chief Technology Officer for
IT (applause) and she would be here but she’d rather be there so I’m going to moderate and
kind of answer some questions to you but I do open innovation at NASA if you
think about it all the data that comes down from every mission that Ellen does,
and that Cady does, that’s data that we can make available for you. So if you think about it our open data
is like we’ve collected these, our mission is to explore and discover. That
once we get that data back, then for the open data program, which Jason Duley
and I work on, he’s over on this side, our job is to set it free so that you can
have it so for Space Apps, the International
Space Apps Challenge was just why we’re here this weekend. We have, it’s one of our open innovation
incubator program so we can take our data and we can give it to you because
one of our mandates is to spur innovation through our data so the best way to do
that is to create a program where we can wrap the data in context, so we
already know the context of our data but to give new context in the form of
challenges and to bring people around it and you can create new solutions to
this and give us new insights. So just to let you know we have a hundred and
thirty six locations this year, it’s the largest one ever, we have over 10,000
people that have already signed up, we’re in 62 countries and I want to give a
great shout out to the Space Apps local hosts. So for New York they’re the
ones putting this show on. We gave the data, we wrapped it in the
challenges, we are here to to enjoy this but they’re the ones that did all the
hard work to put this in place and it’s happening all over the planet. The people are coming together. So one
more thing about that it’s so awesome to me that the seas of NASA data
we keep harvesting and so many new ways, last year’s 671 solutions from the
challenges that we had. So that’s the data, it’s now taking new life in these new ways
that we would have never done. It’s because you guys have new ways of applying it
and you can apply it to the way you live your life. So we’re so thrilled to be part of the
fact that you want to take part in our data it’s this really wonderful kind of
relationship where we are feeding on each other in a way where you inspire us
and we’re thrilled to see that you’re inspired by what we do, it’s just this
wonderful community that we’re creating so we’re thrilled to be here. Well my name’s Cady Coleman, I’m one of the astronauts I’ve had the privilege of flying twice
on the space shuttle and then once this last time on a space station so I lived
there for six months and I you know where we’re here as a team as part of
the NASA team but in the hopes of becoming more of a NASA community really
with I mean when you see the data you realize that it’s all about the earth I mean there’s a lot about space that
it’s all about what happens down here and we’re here to relate some of our
experiences so that you’re basically better informed or understand our point
of view a little bit so you can then look at it from your point of view which
were really looking forward to you know we we gather so much data at
NASA and it is publicly available to everybody but our frustration is how do
we get it in the hands of everybody and we can’t do that on our own so we need
help and so the international space apps
challenge is one of my favorite things that we do every year because it’s
harnessing talent that we normally don’t have access to its bringing everybody on
with our mission which we think is really fun and trying to share that
trying to say space space exploration is for everybody it’s about protecting our
home planet it’s about harnessing our power to to
release a lot of the research we’re doing up on the International Space
Station for everybody it’s getting you involved with our
asteroid challenges you know most of us remember the Chelyabinsk event where
that that rock exploded over siberia and broke all those windows you know asteroids are threat to this
planet and so bringing you guys in to help us understand that help us
communicate that information it’s really about teamwork and when we
working now so when we try to do something like land the Curiosity rover
on Mars or do successful work up on the International Space Station it’s all
about harnessing the talent that each person brings to a problem and so I was so excited to see so many
girls here today I’m so excited that hopefully a lot of
you are going to put be participating this weekend we’re harnessing talent all
around the globe so all of you are part of this global
event that I think it’s just tremendously exciting so thank you for
being here yeah logistics oh this is the last one I’ll hand will
trade ok so we have gathered many questions from the world so we’ll start with katie how do you
stay in touch with family and friends while you’re on a mission in space and
upgrade with you so we actually have an Internet Protocol
phone up there I mean so normally we are talking to the
ground all the time we have we have communication most of every hour sometimes we’ll have 20 minute gaps or
small gaps but we’ve got , a lot with the ground with Mission Control but then
if we want to talk to our friends and family it is literally like picking up a phone
and it says private is any cell phone call is which I don’t think they really
are anyways I’m but it’s a you know and so
you can call it a little bit funny because there’s a sort of a delay and I
learned to just sort of blurted out you know hi it’s Cady Coleman calling from the
International Space Station like if it was somebody I didn’t know and and and
are looking for this guy one time is an author said oh thanks can you hold on
just a minute ok so i will have fries with that and but it’s a great way to stay in touch i
talked to my family every day except for three out of a hundred and fifty-nine
that I was up there and that’s really meaningful to me follow up on that one I i have to i love the sandra bullock
story so while she was in space and gravity had been filled yet do you have anything you want to share
with your the research that Sandra Bullock did while you were on state it
constant my younger brother actually met her brother-in-law just by chance down
here and he said well you know my sister-in-law’s making this movie and
it’s about space and maybe your sister will talk to her and he said well my
sister would talk to anybody and I think she would talk to sandra
bullock and it was a great morale thing for our whole crew because the guys are
like oh wait there’s we have only you you have Sandra Bullock come and we
would try to have conferences together but it’s actually very hard too often
you you’re calling and you know nobody’s
answering the phone and was hard to find each other but she’s got questions about
what it felt like to live up there and what it was physically like to move up
there and then you know that movie to me any movie anything that lets people
understand that we’re doing some really special things in the space program I
mean there is a space station going around the earth 16 times a day 66
people are up there they’re probably just going to bed
there’s probably supposed to go to bed a few hours ago they’re probably just
going to bed and and it’s real it’s to me that’s so amazing you can look up on
the web and say when will I see the space station and you can look out at
the right time the right direction and you know kind of the right angle and
you’ll just see the star and still like the brightest star and it won’t be there
won’t be there won’t be there and then suddenly it appears because it’s
suddenly lit by the Sun at the right angle and then it’s just going to come
across the sky and it thrills me to see that to know that all my friends are up
there and and this is what they’re doing its magic that we are able to do this so
it was really great i think that a movie like gravity and others make our reality
real to a greater amount of the population and I also liked it that they
had a woman heroine who you know was really tough and determined and when
things didn’t work this way that way or the other way thought of a new way to make them work
so it was fun solving that’s what it’s all about Ellen so how do individuals get involved
with citizen science and especially in the younger ages you know I always maintained that any
project we designed for citizen science probably somebody in fifth grade can do
it better than somebody my age who is maybe a little more challenged in fact
i’m with this great program called disc detective where you classify stars as to whether or not they’re likely to
have dust discs and it turns out the human eye does it a lot better than a
computer algorithm can and so the guy who developed it they
have a little training software so you can figure out how to use it on the web
and I was totally stressed about it I’m like what if i do this wrong and he’s
like Alan calm down just just give it a try um but i would say any kid can do it you
know these problems that we have I think most kids are really talented right now we have a website called um
it’s at nasa.gov slash saul i think is the yeah NASA solve is where all our
citizen science one of the things we’ve been trying to
do over the last year is trying to gather all that information on citizen
science and ways that people can participate in NASA activities into one
place the next thing we’re trying to do is to
say how can we expand these programs how can we get even more projects where we
can get even more people involved and get a lot of it is because we have so
much data there’s so much need for our data to be
utilized more than it is especially our earth science data you know climate changes is really in my
mind really the crisis of all of our generation that we’re facing and NASA
gathers an awful lot of data that because it can be used in really
practical ways and you see that on some of the space apps challenge is for this
weekend so um you know I would say people can definitely go to our NASA
solve website on and I think kids of all ages from kids in their sixties the kids
who might just be 10 or 11 or 12 can find something on to join in on it also
Gladys Anderson right up front who she is our NASA salt challenge prizes person
so as I mentioned earlier in the day talk to Gladys if you want to know how
to get engaged with our challenges because we have prices that actually
have money attached some of them big bucks some of them so that’s where you can
find it all right back to katy let me give you a not sure if this is softball
or not that what’s in April Fool’s trick like in
space Oh you know so you have to be careful
because like what you think I mean you’re so it sounds funny but you’re so
far away right in communication gap and so you just bomb you have to be pretty careful about what
you do because it might not be funny on the ground right but it wasn’t april
fools but we actually just could not help ourselves when Robonaut was delivered to the space
station and it was just a tease this amazing robot that is helping us
understand the inner fit here I i would say i would I always said she
in fact I gave Robonaut a pink shirt or right pink shirt when we were training
and we just it’s this amazing but that helps us understand how how we interact
with robots you know on an assembly line to make
cars or you know in an operating room or on a space station where we’re hoping
that they could do some work that we’d like them to do anything it was a really big deal when : he now
he just he’s kind of looking we should fix that but anyways um but we
when he arrived he arrived in a crate the size of a refrigerator and there was
just a big to-do about his unveiling and we were very excited as well so we
actually unpacked him we were instructed very carefully to film all the unpacking
and everything and we were supposed to do it at a certain time on live TV and so we were so excited we did it the
night before and we unpacked him so on the day when we open then we can we
screwed in all 32 of those little bolts on that refrigerator size box and on the
day that we unpacked him we opened it up and there was nobody
there you can tell i’m still slightly proud
and I think we were told that we shouldn’t give up our day jobs for
acting but then it turns out that robot was actually already up and around
controlling the space station from a computer was very fun so Ellen what is your favorite iconic
NASA image oh that’s that’s a tough one you know
we’re celebrating this year the 25th anniversary of the hubble space
telescope for many of you in this room there hasn’t been a time in your lives
when there has not been a hubble space telescope on Hubble has done so much
more than it was ever imagined to do first of all it was it was on service how many times by astronauts four times
by astronauts from from the shuttle each time arm and it has changed our
understanding of the universe of galaxies of the nature of stars of star
formation and probably my favorite image is the most iconic image i’m sure you’ve
you’ve seen it it’s called the pillars of creation which has these are galactic
dust clouds on in that are basically star nursery that’s where whole region
on where’s our stars are forming on end to me so many of the images that we get
back from Hubble they look more like art then they do like something you might
want to go do science on and so to me Hubble is also this amazing intersection
between just aesthetic beauty and science that i absolutely love it – I
love all the Hubble that we have an earth as art program and NASA and it
goes in and takes all those beautiful images in and listen the art and
actually sorry my little space apps side stories but last year yes and but last year the can’t remember
the name of the app but one of them from Kansas City that was the name of the app
to earth is art ok and out of Kansas City created an app
that took all the images and you could go in and decide whether you want a
night image or a day and image and you can pick your satellite and then you can
write a note on it like oh this is the day that i had my first child or something like
that really really cute and so they won and convenient one of the finalists for
the global so Barbra K value i have to break in here because we’ve heard hubble
hubble hubble hubble bubble bubble right well and so you know having been part of
the team that launched the Chandra x-ray Observatory you know the poor humble you
know what goes around the earth very close and so it actually has its view
blocked a lot of the time and so Chandra is in a eighty thousand kilometer orbit
elliptical orbit around and so it’s only a fun I think 60 hours only 45 of those 60
hours is the view blog but everything at well you know i’m teasing about that the
cock the competition but it’s that there’s a family of telescopes which to
me really speaks to me where they look at all the different energies of light
and together that makes one image and what I i love is that there’s you know
they’ll understand now where something is going to happen and then we . all
these telescopes in the same direction and collect data in all the different
energy levels and will be one picture that looks really boring from one type
of telescope and is amazingly complicated from another and Chandra
fills in the gaps when it comes to black holes and a lot of energetic kind of
events but back to Hubble I like the Hubble
time you you know I went to the hubble 3d movie
years ago when it first came out and they let NASA you know people come see
the screening of it and what shocked me because you see pictures but the movie
it shows here’s a picture and then it zooms in and then zooms in and it zooms
in and it seems in a number one is going on my gosh we really are blue planet
because it’s just keep zooming in zooming zooming in the black of space
and then it talks about you know that the Apollo program and how they said on
the way to the moon we discovered the earth and that really backed up one of
you really a lot of work for NASA but it’s
one of this we just don’t think about how the vast
universe and i really like what you were saying even with the Kepler is looking
at just a little sliver so there’s all this other that we don’t
know so call your Congressman but made in here that’s me just kidding just kidding we’re happy
with what we have okay so um me and with that that was Ellen and backed up so
back to katy that’s what you can could even know about it so here is there a lock on the bathroom
in space so if there’s an old lock but actually
is not the first time I’ve heard that question and I think that there when
people are deciding is that you know is is that thing is being an astronaut or
being someone who codes or being someone who’s an engineer is that for me and often there’s really misconceptions
and one of the misconceptions about going to space is that you’re going to
have to give up your privacy and it’s all in all those things you think might
be tricky are just going to be awful like going to the bathroom right it is easier than on any camping trip I
have ever been on ok or in any you know a place that
you’ve been just yesterday arriving New York City but it you know so it’s easy
to do those things there’s lots of privacy it it and it’s actually a really
big place our space station it’s like eight train cars all put together
without the seats it’s just some of them off or down but it’s very big and often
you’re the only one in that module there’s plenty of privacy to change your
clothes to do everything you need to do and and it’s all very easy with no
gravity what I do is ask both of you a question
and but I want while they’re answering we want to take a break from the
internet questions and if you guys have a question so be prepared and do we have an
additional oh you do good thank you so the question for both of you is what
is the major barrier to getting to Mars and you talked about a little it earlier but but well i’m going to
assume Katy might take on some of the human health challenges so um the one of
the don’t know I’m going to get Katie some um one of the chief challenges to
getting to Mars is actually getting on to Mars um we we can do rockets that can get
we’re building a new rocket called the space launch system that is going to be
able to throw astronauts further that will get them on the energy levels they
need to to move on to Mars we still haven’t built yet a Mars transfer
vehicle that would carry humans from say the person be the moon to Mars but
that’s not a huge check technological challenge we just we just need to do it the real challenge is landing on the
surface of Mars and that is because Mars wallets about the third the size of the
earth on so it doesn’t have as much gravity is the earth but it still has a
fair amount what it has is a very very thin
atmosphere and atmospheres are really great for slowing spacecraft down I’m some of you might have seen our
seven minutes of Terror video that the Jet Propulsion Laboratory did for the
curiosity landing on it was seven minutes from the top of the atmosphere
until they had to slow themselves down to essentially zero because you don’t
want your spacecraft crashed in the ground even if it’s just got a rover on
it let alone people I’m so how you slow a spacecraft down curiosity did it through a complex on
combination of some retrorocket firing parachutes actually a series of
parachutes then this skits crazy thing called a skycrane that basically let it
down on cables really complicated beforehand frankly a lot of us were
really worried it wasn’t going to work it worked perfectly the Curiosity rover
Wade one metric ton we estimate that the amount of material
you’re going to need for humans on the surface of Mars so that somewhere for
them to live supplies a rocket to bring them back to the earth launch them off
Mars to get back to the earth that’s on the order of 40 metric tons we don’t know how to do more than one
metric tons so what we call entry descent and landing or edl because we
love acronyms at NASA so edl is our top challenge i would say
for Mars so we’ve been talking about Mars for a
while you know here and in the time that I’ve been growing up and it’s a long way
away i mean it’s it’s a long distance and
it’s it’s one thing to say let’s just go and there’s the practical aspect that
Ellen talked about but then there’s also a bunch of other practical aspects and
and an analogy would be when the family says and I think they make movies about
this wet like Chevy Chase and those guys are they go let’s go camping and they
are envisioning there we are with the family the tent frying you know need
food that we all love but the reality is you gotta think about what you need to
bring and what’s the weather gonna be like and how do you bring enough of it
and will it all fit in the car the car packing alone right I mean I’m being kind of funny about it
but the reason we haven’t gone to Mars yet with humans is that we are not ready and that the steps to get ready are
there mathematical or logical we need life support we need to be able
to filter the air in a very repeatable dependable manner take out the co2 need to recycle our our
air and our water we need to understand what’s going to
happen to the people so that when we get there we still have the bones and
muscles that we need to build what we want to build on Mars are our
environmental system on the space station breaks every week or two or
three it broke today and and I mean that says
it’s not horrible in that we for NASA we always have a backup we have we have
several copies of it and we have different ones and we understand what’s
going on with it and were figuring it out it doesn’t break because bad engineers
designed it I mean it might have probably not
breaking is broken as soon if women engineers were designing it more women
right but but I mean it thanks because we don’t understand we
didn’t understand the microgravity environment because we need to learn
about those things the toilet breaks all the time we need a
really reliable toilet but these are just mean it’s not sexy in terms of like let’s just go I’m not
just going that sexy but the reality is a lot of really good solid engineering
and problem solving solving logical problems to do each step at a time and
I’m hoping that we’re going to make some headway on a few of them this weekend at
space apps one question about radiation so that’s
the other piece that we you know we’re getting out that far do you want to talk
about that because that’s a huge deal for humans and for others it is here on
the surface of the earth were actually protected by largely from solar
radiation and cosmic radiation by the Earth’s magnetic field it’s like a
bubble around the earth and so when for example there’s a big solar flare or
coronal mass ejection these explosions that take place almost surface of the
Sun they send reams of energetic particles towards the Earth most of
those divers around the earth because of our magnetic field once we send
astronauts out beyond that I mean they’re getting a little more radiation
up on the International Space Station just like you to get a little more when
you’re on an airplane as opposed to the surface of the earth but when you’re at
the moon on your way to Mars you’re getting a much higher dose of
radiation you’re getting a lot of cosmic radiation and we worry about that in
particular because that’s really high energy so you’re getting these higher
energy particles they come in and basically the result of it is is that it
raises your lifetime cancer risks so what we’ve been doing over the last many
years at NASA is doing an awful lot of studies on radiation exposure this is also a great example of how the
research we do in space actually benefits us here on the earth because if
we’re trying to think about ways to protect astronauts on especially more
sensitive parts of astronauts that are more likely to have higher cancer risk
of Morgan’s on fatty tissues things like that if we’re worrying about that we also
worry about that here on earth for example when people get radiotherapy
when they have cancer here on earth you want to make sure you’re attacking the
cancer and protecting the rest of the person so in working on this problem for
astronauts were actually also doing research that’s very complementary to a
lot of our needs here on earth I’m so a huge amount of research going
into how do we protect astronauts on what effective shielding have how much
shielding do we have to bring water better types of shielding and right now
the conclusion we’ve come to is that the radiation is not a showstopper we will
in likely be asking astronauts to take on a higher risk of cancer than say even
somebody working in a nuclear power plant here on the surface of the earth
but we’re doing a lot of research to say how can we how can we minimize that and
minimize the effects in the long run it’s a similar story for osteoporosis you know it are our risk of that is
accelerated up there by about a factor of ten compared to off a 70 year old
woman who has osteoporosis we lose bone and muscle 10 times faster so what she
would lose in a in a year I would lose in a month approx and yet the things that we learn because
it happens so quickly to us that also makes it easier to measure and to map
and so to understand the mechanism and we often have more often maybe even
chosen for are very sort of clean medical histories that make it easier to
draw some of those conclusions but that a lot of that research comes right back
down here to earth and to you know our society where we need to protect
everybody’s health and its exercise is a bicester i tell people that you know
there’s good news and bad news you know and they’re both the same the good news
is we have something we can do and the bad news is exercises here to stay weight-bearing exercise so that that
really does make a difference alright so any questions from the
audience are good good practicing your speaking skills oh ok it’s really loud I have a question for katie what do you
miss the most about being in space mmm it’s a very very special place and I
and i miss actually just being in this place where I felt like a colonist I
mean I felt so special and so privileged to be in this place to have this view .
and have the view of the earth and then every single thing you do every day
remind you that you are not on earth and and most of all I loved the flying from
place to place i’m not you a bunch of you’ve been with me all day i’m not that
graceful down here and just you know with a touch of a finger you are flying
from place to place you can actually see a video that Karen
Nyberg did on the web that shows that I mean all it takes to move is you know
one here from your head you can hold it between two fingers or two hands like
dental floss or something and just use it to push and you will move yourself
across the space station so it’s like living the life of Peter Pan and all the
rules are different and it’s just a magical place to be I this questions for Ellen how would you
or what would you suggest for someone who is trying to really push for more
research and feel that is somewhat limited and if out there bottom but by companies
that are currently within that field are bought why giants like Google and so
forth how do you push for independent research
and large within large organizations it you know I I think that’s a great
question because I i think the importance of innovative ideas and
different approaches and saying you know here’s something that I’m really
passionate about and and it’s it’s an area that needs to have be nurtured um and I think the most important thing
is to bring your passion to it because you know when when people want to
advocate for something or you know when people come to me or they come to
Charlie Bolden the administrator of NASA and it’s something they really care
about what you look for in somebody is to say did they have real passion and
conviction about about what they’re doing can they tell a story about why
it’s important why it needs to be continued on and I i
think those two things having a good story and having the passion is how to
continue research in an area because if you can demonstrate to people like look
this is really critical and here’s a story of why it’s important or how it
affects i started on over the last several years we’ve really been working
on NASA at science communication you think it don’t you guys do that all the
time but i think one of the things about communication that we often forget to do
is to tell a story and so when I think about how to talk about Hubble or how to
talk about why I think it’s important for humans to go to Mars or why we have
astronauts on the International Space Station it’s bringing that passion to the story
it’s saying I believe in this it’s really important and it’s cool and here’s why here’s a story about how
it should matter to you also and so all of those things I think are
important elements but keep keep doing what you’re doing I think you should lecture them about
telling stories for space channel for space apps challenge i lecture that yes so it is I’ve left
doing that and my kids don’t like it so telling the story telling is exactly
what we’ve been talking about all day and we want you to again if you have a
great idea but you can tell the story find someone who can help you tell the
story so that’s the other thing about it when you’re teaming tomorrow and the
next day it’s like you need the designers and the coders in the the
crafters and the storytellers so and you know the storytellers you can tell who they are so just have
him come to your team and and help at even from the very beginning when you
crafted you should be storyboarding your your idea anyway I think it should do this I will do this
here’s what we need it but the whole so what factor that’s the big if you can’t
say so what why should I care if you can’t say it then people won’t get it so
that’s my little lecture on that but yes the story telling us is just and I’m so
glad that everyone’s help me when if you tell stories or I will cut you
understand exactly said that so as far as our judges know our our
executive judges there are several in the room it’s that video that 30-second video
that’s makes all the difference now the rest of us on the team we go through and
look at your github and see what you’ve done to make sure that you’re legit and
that you really have done some work and all that but it’s that 30-second video
that it makes all the difference and even get to to get to the top 25
have to tell you make us laugh I it makes all the difference in the
world when when NASA people are sitting room laughing because it’s just the this
most clever hilarious then you kind of go it may not even be the best solution
but oh my gosh that’s hilarious so at least moves forward a little bit so yeah I telling the story you can be
super serious but you know right so enough of my lecture Oh No it’s got more you know it’s just gonna
say one of the things i think when you do tell story and one of the things is i
think a lot of times you forget to start at the beginning and you’re so enmeshed
in a problem you know when I like I study volcanoes
on venus and like if I started talking I i would start chapter 4 because that’s
where my head is and i have to realize in this helps me my my daughter I’m
embarrassed for my daughter over here um his 19 she’s studying Russian
politics so she’s not a science person none of my kids are I took them on way
too many geology field trips when they were kids and lecture then by rock
outcrops and they were like no okay I’ve had enough of this but I think when I
tell a story I’m going to think about telling it to
one of my kids I’m gonna tell it to my husband who has no idea what I’m talking
about and I think that’s the other part when
you’re thinking about your story-telling remember the people you’re talking to
our art with you you need to bring them with you from out again after four yeah I i really like that to one of our
guys on arch and remission once the guy named dr. Steve Hawley who
is really a great story tell you that it’s actually quite a quiet person he
doesn’t really like talk like me all the time right and i would say well Steve you know what
about these white dwarf things i know i don’t understand this he goes well it
turns out and then the story would come and he makes it be alive which I really
need someone to tell me stories like that I think Alan’s a good storyteller
because every time she talks that rocks i’m going to want that when I want that
Rach so Olivia I know you had a question I’m
before you talked about how i got everyone’s looking at me before you talk
about how astronauts would be a lot healthier if they were able to like
exercise and like eat right and is there some kind of like limitation when it comes to zero gravity and like
being able to exercise and if they are can you explain some of them there’s not i remember when you were
saying that is it like a little it was implying that was hard to do we
actually do exercise about an hour an hour and a half it’s about a two hour . but an hour and
a half an hour of weight-bearing exercise and 30 minutes of cardio and we
do that i would say five days a week maybe six or or more and if you don’t do
it we actually sort of lose our bar on
muscle so much more quickly then you just don’t even feel good if you don’t
exercise plus hundreds of people know what you did or not and that’s always
very motivating on but it’s so it’s so it’s definitely possible and at the same
time we’re doing research it takes a lot of time no six crew members two hours a day I mean it’s just it’s a lot of time out
of your day to hours a day and there’s still no other time brush teeth brushing and all that kind
of stuff so we’ve been doing some experiments to understand how to do it
more efficiently and yet you also have to think about the human part of it you
know if you do more interval training you know that that’s that’s more intense
and can we maintain the same amount of bone and also trying to look at
different kinds of exercise equipment and also people are people like you know
right I hated the exercise bike I mean I just
never wanted to do that and yet some people loved it but if it turns out you
so you can actually just give one answer to human beings really although there may be room only
room for one option so you have to figure out a way to make a good
technical solution that the humans can live with right now we’re doing okay but we still
have a lot of research to do i want to add one quick story about the kids I
work with a lot of astronauts i love hearing stories about things with doug
wheelock his he’s got the best when he was here last year but when he came back
from his mission you know we talked about exercise and
the things they do and they have exercise equipment but he was talking
about how he didn’t realize how much work it took to hold his head up and
he’s a big guy and so when he came back to earth it’s like he couldn’t hold his head up
and so all those muscles and I had never thought about the weight of a head and
he is a piece of big guy and I think Carl and blanking out there’s yeah cause he came back and he
had he had to go through therapy forever for his back because all the exercises
to do it was he wasn’t doing either he wasn’t doing them in a way
that he strengthened the back muscles but it took him a while to get those
muscles back so it’s just interesting different people even with the same
exercise equipment may need the trainer right there you know spotting you and make sure oh yeah our trade our trainers watching
us not all the time but we have sessions with them as often as you would want and
and that’s really helpful to have them look at your form and things like that
and actually between those two crew members karl was on expedition – I think
and Doug was expedition probably 24 and so in that iteration we have gotten an
exercise machine up there that seems to be actually preserving people’s bone and
muscle mass very very well yeah and just to go to follow up on that
again what we’re learning up there is is certainly helping us and it helps to
inform us down here because those of us who work in very sedentary um desk jobs while we lose bone density
much slower than astronauts to it turns out a lot of on like I’m pounding and
weight bearing exercise you do or what helps keep our bones strong here on
earth also and so again we’re always reflecting
back water we learning on the ISS and how can we use that to keep us healthier
here on this planet I’m what’s the weight training how do you like in that environment how
do you like avoid people getting injured / just careful I think we know we think about that the
hazards before we go actually make sure the payloads are safe
there’s a lot of testing that they go through to make sure that they’re not
going to suddenly snap open and slap you or pinch your fingers or you know those
those kinds of things and so it um i would say it’s it in general pretty
safe environment i mean one of the things we think about is is actually
banging your head because you’re flying right and and so we’re we’re careful
careful about those things yeah now-now expand that to going to
Mars because you can say okay you’re going to go to Mars you’re going to land
on the surface there’s a lot more hazards things could
happen and so some of the work we’re doing on the international space station
right now is you know simple stuff what what on what pharmaceutical products we
need to take with us how do you keep them chef’s table on
which you know most most drugs on the earth after a year they’re no longer
stable how do we work on that issue to keep them stable for like three years what kind of training do we need to give
to the astronauts to help them diagnose you certainly want to have a dr along in
case you needed some minor medical procedure we can get the astronauts home
really quickly from the International Space Station we couldn’t do that from
Mars Women and we won’t necessarily have a doctor on a mission and so what are the things you know what
can you do that you would he be coached to do and what are the things that we
need to be able to train people to do no matter what by themselves with no one
else to help them and we have procedures or videos it’s interesting that the
communication and the storytelling that then helps us understand how to take
care of ourselves time for one more question I feel lucky so I’m actually crazy
enough to actually read those journals you were talking about earlier today
that when people post them and I actually been watching footage of
spacewalks and my question is I actually witnessed a spacewalk where somebody was
having to fix some sort of module and they literally said I can’t see the
color the part is black so they didn’t know which way to rotate the wrench so my question was is this due to the
color i mean i know the part was black but his advisor also tinted on a
spacewalk um it’s got a gold shield on it but i
don’t think that doesn’t really mess with it i don’t think so and I think it
would probably had more to do with lighting and something that’s you know
we doing space wats is expensive it’s more dangerous and it would be nice
if we had a robot out there doing our work out there and that we only had to
go out for things that you really needed a human hand or human you know I used to do and so I work in
the office of the chief technologist something that we’re looking at is you
know how do a little flying robots see and how do they see in that environment
where it’s not like here we are it’s in that very bright where
everything is either white or black in the really stark light how can they see in that limited
environment I was talking about a color sensor earlier so I was thinking that’s
not going to work out in space so yeah but i mean i was thinking that
very problems and thanks by the way we have three challenges about robots and
one of them is the censor yourself and it’s put so all three have that are with
a little spheres robot so if you’re interested in look at that and I didn’t want to also
bring it back to date a real quick and space walks last year was a last year we
had a spacesuit fill it with water and it turns out in the Miss airport as we
do it turns out it was a data issue and so our office has taken on working with
this beats walking office in houston to figure out how to have the data to talk
to each other because you got data on contracts and got data and with the
international space station has 16 countries so we’ve got Russian space
suits and an American space suits so the fact that dated not talking to each
other could put astronauts life at risk is this kind of shocking you think it’s
a malfunction partner there was a hole in it there’s a lake or you know some
valve didn’t work but that it was the data so we’re going back to do at all of
these challenges and we’re giving you data we’re giving you challenges eat you
might come up with some really awesome way to make the the spheres robot see
colors when it’s really black and white and we hadn’t really thought about that
so i’m really i’m excited that you guys are here you know we’re so thrilled to be part of
this thank you so much katie an element nervous for starting this off and we I
believe we have food outside are coming in here soon this has been an awesome day thank you
all of you for coming and participate in and Sandy for coming to speak so thank
you for being here and I hope you’re all taking part in the weekend which is
kicking off and if you’re not you can do it virtually even if you hadn’t signed
up for it so thank you guys yeah yeah

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